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DallasFlier 01-21-2010 12:25 PM

2010 College Football
 
Well, I figured its about time to start a new thread for the new year - and since no one else has done it yet, I might as well!

Repeating a post I made in the other thread, with early oddsmaking on next year's National Champion potentials.

From bodog.com:

3/1: Alabama

13/2: Ohio State

12/1: Oregon, USC

15/1: Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, Boise State

18/1: Florida, TCU, Virginia Tech

20/1: Iowa, Miami, Penn State, Field (any other team, collectively)

25/1: LSU

Entire list here (scroll down)

DallasFlier 01-22-2010 11:57 AM

Forbes list of most valuable college teams, Dec. 09

Two Big 12 teams more valuable than anybody in the SEC? :p

1. Texas

2. Notre Dame

3. Penn State

4. Nebraska

5. Alabama

6. Florida

7. LSU

8. Ohio State

9. Georgia

10. Oklahoma

11. Michigan

12. South Carolina

13. Tennessee

14. Auburn

15. USC

16. Michigan State

17. Arkansas

18. Texas A&M

19. Wisconsin

20. Oklahoma State

College Football's Most Valuable Teams

mriff 01-22-2010 01:30 PM

Wonder what it would look like if you compared the SEC to the Big 12?

DallasFlier 01-22-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriff (Post 12044)
Wonder what it would look like if you compared the SEC to the Big 12?

As a conference as a whole? No way to do that directly from Forbes data, they only list the top 20, no data for the rest of the teams. One could make an assumption, based on the fact that there are 7 SEC schools and 5 Big 12 schools in the list of 20. If one makes that assumption, then I guess you'd have to say that the top of the Big 12 is more valuable than the top of the SEC, but the "rest" of the SEC is worth more than the "rest" of the Big 12. ;)

I actually found two things interesting. First, I was very pleasantly surprised to see Nebraska ranked 4th in the nation in value, and just as surprised to see that the Huskers out-value every team in the SEC.

Second, I find it pretty amazing that only ONE school in the entire (population-rich) Pac 10 makes the list at all.

With respect to the other post of mine - its kind of interesting that the oddsmakers who actually put money on the line (only one I've found yet publishing the odds on this) find it more likely that Texas, Oklahoma AND Nebraska could win next year's NC than Florida (or anyone else in the SEC except 'Bama!) (y)

mriff 01-24-2010 08:44 AM

Looks like we'll have Meyer around after all.

Florida's Urban Meyer to coach spring practice - NCAA Football - SI.com

DallasFlier 01-24-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriff (Post 12050)

I saw that too, and I don't think its good. I say that because I actually like and respect Meyer. Meyer, from multiple accounts I've read, has been heavily involved in recruiting, has said he expects to be coaching this fall, and now says he'll coach the spring game.

His carefully considered decision to resign; after extensive talks with family, doctors and UF management; after one practice became an "indefinite leave of absence" instead, and now looks to not even be that, unless "indefinite" meant a day or two. The coaching obsession has once again triumphed over personal health and family, and I don't see that as being a good decision for Urban.

What's your opinion, mriff and other Gators here?

College football head coach: the most dangerous job in sports

Otto 01-31-2010 11:15 PM

This is the final week of non-Spring football. I'm quite nervous and anxious and happy about this recruiting class. I know the Florida fans are absolutely overjoyed about their class. Auburn is watching closely for the following stories in recruiting:

- Where does DJ Howard sign? Does he stay committed to Auburn, or does he go to Clemson? Howard is a RB who was timed at summer camps with a legit 4.34 to 4.40 forty yard speed. He plans to make his final decision on Wednesday.

- Where does Shon Coleman sign? Auburn was early to offer and he has been committed since. Coleman has recently taken his official visits to Alabama, Miami, Arkansas, and Ole Miss. He plans to make his final decision on Wednesday.

- Do we get Marcus Lattimore's signature? Lattimore is the top RB in the nation and would round out our attempts at ringing in the two top RBs in the nation (in addition to already committed Michael Dyer). He will be announcing at his church on Tuesday night at 6:00 PM.

- Do we get Byran Jones? He is deciding between the hometown Razorbacks and Auburn. We have made a late push and having two other Arkansas natives (Dyer and his teammate Dakota Moseley) doesn't hurt. Rumor is that he has posted on Facebook he will be signing with Auburn. He will announce sometime on Wednesday.

- Do we get Jeffrey Whitaker? He is deciding between the hometown Bulldogs, Auburn, and Miami. He's a big defensive tackle that has vaulted up the Rivals 100 list. He will be announcing tomorrow at 2:00 PM EST.

- Do we get Corey Lemonier? The rumors have said he was an AU lock, but FSU has made recent in-roads for his signature. He is one of the top defensive ends in the nation. He will announce on Wednesday around noon.

Also, in other news, it appears the NCAA has sent a Preliminary Letter of Inquiry (PLOI) to USC. It is said to have two dozen major violations listed. WOW!

NCAA probe of USC complete - College Football - Rivals.com

mriff 02-01-2010 05:18 PM

Six of the top nine teams on Rivals list are SEC. Pretty impressive run by the new coach at UT. And a damn fine run by the relatively new AU coach.

mriff 02-01-2010 05:20 PM

Not football, but wow.

USC fires student manager after his technical foul for ref abuse - The Dagger - NCAAB Blog - Yahoo! Sports

DallasFlier 02-01-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriff (Post 12105)
Six of the top nine teams on Rivals list are SEC. Pretty impressive run by the new coach at UT. And a damn fine run by the relatively new AU coach.

And to show just how inexact these rankings can be, Scout only gives the SEC 4 of the top 10 spots. Nebraska is ranked 30th right now, with a small class. We're still "in play" with 3 top players, should be get all three we'll be sitting pretty - 2 of 3 would still be pretty good, with the small class size.

Meanwhile, 6 of the 7 (way too) early 2010 top 25 lists have Nebraska in the top 10, with 2 of them ranking the Huskers as high as #5. The outlier places them #13.

mriff 02-01-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasFlier (Post 12108)
And to show just how inexact these rankings can be, Scout only gives the SEC 4 of the top 10 spots. Nebraska is ranked 30th right now, with a small class. We're still "in play" with 3 top players, should be get all three we'll be sitting pretty - 2 of 3 would still be pretty good, with the small class size.

Meanwhile, 6 of the 7 (way too) early 2010 top 25 lists have Nebraska in the top 10, with 2 of them ranking the Huskers as high as #5. The outlier places them #13.

I've never looked at Scout, I've always followed Rivals. I've been following that site for years. And yes, while it is inexact, it is relative. When you continuously recruit highly rated players AND combine that with good coaching, then good things will happen. (Ok, most of the time. :D )

And hey, having a small class can be a good thing. That means you have tons of returning players.

mriff 02-03-2010 04:16 PM

Love it.

12:53 p.m. -- Hialeah defenders make decisions

Two Hialeah (Fla.) recruits will play on opposite sides of the country. Four-star defensive end Corey Lemonier will sign with Auburn rather than Florida State. Another four-star end, Calvin Smith will head West to sign with New Mexico.

DallasFlier 02-03-2010 08:00 PM

Well, Nebraska got two of the 3 top players who were in play until the last minute today. Picked up the Rivals #7 dual-threat QB, Brion Carnes out of Florida (Tommy Frazier's second cousin!) as well as the #20 safety, Corey Cooper of IL, who picked us over Notre Dame. Also signed the #5 RB, Braylon Heard of Ohio and picked up the #24 OL and #30 DL along with a couple top JUCO's who will play immediately. Ended up jumping into the top 25 for class ratings, and everyone's pretty happy.

Bo Pelini's best quote from his press conference today, "I believe this class will help lead Nebraska to a National Championship."

Otto 02-06-2010 01:12 AM

DF, you guys may be picking up Kenbrell Thompkins from JUCO as well. He's waiting to be released from his signed LOI to Tennessee (Kiffin victim). He's down to OU and NU.

Overall, I'm very pleased with our class. We didn't get Lattimore or Jones, but everyone on our board on NSD, we signed. Not bad at all.

By the way, here's a really interesting article about Scout versus Rivals with regards to the rankings. I didn't realize that Rivals limits the class to 20 players only, thus why USC won.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=73&f=1042&t=5575447

QUITE interesting!

Otto 02-06-2010 08:52 PM

Looks like Auburn is off to a fast start for 2011 recruiting. Spencer Region, a lifetime Alabama fan who said just last week that it was his childhood dream to play for the Tide, decommitted from UA and commited to Auburn! Boooyah! He's going to be the top OL in Alabama and one of the top linemen in the nation next season. At 6'6 345lbs, he's not a small boy either.

Auburn adds 2011 commitment from offensive lineman Spencer Region | The Gold Mine - al.com

DallasFlier 02-07-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12165)
DF, you guys may be picking up Kenbrell Thompkins from JUCO as well. He's waiting to be released from his signed LOI to Tennessee (Kiffin victim). He's down to OU and NU.

Where are you seeing that? Neither Scout or Rivals list either NU or OU in his list of schools, and there hasn't been any mention of him on the Husker forum I'm on either.

EDIT: Found it, never mind. Per Tim Griffin at ESPN on Friday, in addition to NU and OU, Oregon and Cal are still in the mix too.

DallasFlier 02-09-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12167)
Looks like Auburn is off to a fast start for 2011 recruiting. Spencer Region, a lifetime Alabama fan who said just last week that it was his childhood dream to play for the Tide, decommitted from UA and commited to Auburn! Boooyah! He's going to be the top OL in Alabama and one of the top linemen in the nation next season. At 6'6 345lbs, he's not a small boy either.

Auburn adds 2011 commitment from offensive lineman Spencer Region | The Gold Mine - al.com

That's great, but I have to say, Nebraska is off to an even faster start! We've already got verbals from 3 recruits for 2011, and two of the three are on Rival's just released "Rivals250 to Watch 2011" list - as is Region.

Jamal Turner - dual threat QB out of Arlington, TX Sam Houston. Threw AND ran for over 1800 yards each as a Junior this last season.

Tyler Moore - OL from Clearwater, FL Countryside. This one will likely end up in the top few OL in the nation, if not THE top OL. He turned down scholarship offers from Florida, Florida State, Miami, South Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio State and West Virginia - among others - to commit to Nebraska.

Our third commit is the top OL in the State of Nebraska, and probably one of the top dozen or so in the country, but he didn't make the early Rivals250 list although talk is he's close and may yet crack it as the list changes over the next year before signing day.

Ryne Reeves - OL, Crete, NE.

I have to say, with those three recruits already verballing to Nebraska, and with 6 of the 7 early polls placing us in the top 10 (as high as #5 for two of them) the future is looking very bright again! :cool:

Otto 02-11-2010 12:00 AM

Bad news for Longhorns fans...

New NCAA recruiting rule restricts contact between recruits, coaches-in-waiting | Texas Longhorns News | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News

Otto 02-11-2010 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasFlier (Post 12202)
That's great, but I have to say, Nebraska is off to an even faster start! We've already got verbals from 3 recruits for 2011, and two of the three are on Rival's just released "Rivals250 to Watch 2011" list - as is Region.

Jamal Turner - dual threat QB out of Arlington, TX Sam Houston. Threw AND ran for over 1800 yards each as a Junior this last season.

Tyler Moore - OL from Clearwater, FL Countryside. This one will likely end up in the top few OL in the nation, if not THE top OL. He turned down scholarship offers from Florida, Florida State, Miami, South Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio State and West Virginia - among others - to commit to Nebraska.

Our third commit is the top OL in the State of Nebraska, and probably one of the top dozen or so in the country, but he didn't make the early Rivals250 list although talk is he's close and may yet crack it as the list changes over the next year before signing day.

Ryne Reeves - OL, Crete, NE.

I have to say, with those three recruits already verballing to Nebraska, and with 6 of the 7 early polls placing us in the top 10 (as high as #5 for two of them) the future is looking very bright again! :cool:

We'll pull commits from most of the following prospects: Christian Westerman (5-star, #2 OT), Erique Florence (4-star, #3 CB), Kiehl Frazier (4-star, #3 QB), Gabe Wright (4-star, #8 DT), C.J. Uzomah (4-star, #9 QB), LaMichael Fanning (4-star, #11 DE), Bray Cook (4-star, #11 OT).

Fanning and Florence are within 15 minutes of AU (Fanning plays for Auburn High School and Florence plays for my old high school, Valley). Florence is a life-long AU fan and will likely be a 3-time all-state safety at the end of next season (not bad considering VHS plays in 5A football, out of six classifications in AL).

One interesting thing about AU now is that we're pulling a lot of players from the Arkansas area due to Malzahn's legendary status there. Two of the recruits above are from the Springdale area where Malzahn first implemented the Wildcat offense and won two state championships in his five years as head coach of Springdale High.

DallasFlier 02-11-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12224)
We'll pull commits from most of the following prospects: Christian Westerman (5-star, #2 OT), Erique Florence (4-star, #3 CB), Kiehl Frazier (4-star, #3 QB), Gabe Wright (4-star, #8 DT), C.J. Uzomah (4-star, #9 QB), LaMichael Fanning (4-star, #11 DE), Bray Cook (4-star, #11 OT).

Fanning and Florence are within 15 minutes of AU (Fanning plays for Auburn High School and Florence plays for my old high school, Valley). Florence is a life-long AU fan and will likely be a 3-time all-state safety at the end of next season (not bad considering VHS plays in 5A football, out of six classifications in AL).

One interesting thing about AU now is that we're pulling a lot of players from the Arkansas area due to Malzahn's legendary status there. Two of the recruits above are from the Springdale area where Malzahn first implemented the Wildcat offense and won two state championships in his five years as head coach of Springdale High.

OK jibi, I have to ask. Is this just more Kool-Aid drinking and wishful thinking at this point? Take the first one you mention (and only 5*****), for instance - Christian Westerman. He's from Arizona and currently lists offers and equal interest for Alabama, Arizona State, Auburn, California, Florida, LSU, Miami (Fl), Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, UCLA, USC, and Washington. So what makes you think Auburn gets his commit at this point?

Otto 02-14-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasFlier (Post 12229)
OK jibi, I have to ask. Is this just more Kool-Aid drinking and wishful thinking at this point? Take the first one you mention (and only 5*****), for instance - Christian Westerman. He's from Arizona and currently lists offers and equal interest for Alabama, Arizona State, Auburn, California, Florida, LSU, Miami (Fl), Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, UCLA, USC, and Washington. So what makes you think Auburn gets his commit at this point?

The "only 5-star" listing is because Rivals has not done any star-ratings at this point and Scout's are only a preliminary early watch list, basically (for example, Jeff Driskel is still listed as a 3-star).

Regarding Westerman:
Quote:

"It's not often that you hear Arizona prep football star and the Auburn Tigers in the same sentence, but that's exactly the case with 2011 standout offensive tackle Christian Westerman from Hamilton High.

"We're thrilled and absolutely excited about hearing from Auburn," the elder Westerman tells Inside The Auburn Tigers. "That's a school we've had interest in for quite some time because of all the family ties we have in the South. We've got family there in Auburn and in Alabama and around the Southeast. That's a school we've had our sights on for a while."

"Part of our interest in the Southeast is that where Christian chooses to go to school we would probably move close to that area," Westerman says. "We've thought about moving to Alabama for some time now because my wife's parents and her brother and aunts and uncles, we have family all over Florida, Georgia and immediate family in Alabama.

"We want to let Christian be his own guy and go to school and have his own deal, but we want to certainly be in the area where we can support him. Family is very important to us. Our church and Christian faith is very important to us. It's important to keep that together. This isn't to be overbearing or not to give him his space, we just want to be part of his football future."

"I definitely think Christian wants to play as soon as possible," Westerman says. "He wants to go somewhere he can make an impact. When you look around at a Florida or a USC and some of the other schools that have offered him, they've been a real hotbed for recruiting and that's great.

"But for a kid to come in and really make a difference and make an impact and be part of a change in direction, which I think Auburn is going to have over the next few years. This is only the staff's first year. I think it's real important to Christian and our family that he can get in and be an impact guy. I think that's a huge advantage that Auburn has. With Auburn we feel like it's just the beginning and they're on an upswing of growth. Christian could come in and be an impact kid and help turn the program on an upswing that could last for the next five or 10 years."
So no, definitely not kool-aid. If anything, I'd imagine we're atop Westerman and his family's list.

DallasFlier 02-14-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12256)
The "only 5-star" listing is because Rivals has not done any star-ratings at this point and Scout's are only a preliminary early watch list, basically (for example, Jeff Driskel is still listed as a 3-star).

Regarding Westerman:


So no, definitely not kool-aid. If anything, I'd imagine we're atop Westerman and his family's list.

Well, in my experience the interviews about a visit, or an offer from a team - are almost always complimentary and talking about how good the school is and how impressed they are. We've had some visits already from 2-3 top players where I can quote interviews like that too. But I'm not going to, its WAY too early. I think when a player lists EQUAL interest in 16 schools, its still kool-aid drinking to start thinking you've got him. Now, if he drops the interest in all 15 of those other schools to "low" and raises Auburn from "medium" to "high" come back and talk to me. ;)

Otto 02-15-2010 08:30 PM

I only said we'd pull commits from most of that list. I still left some wiggle room to lose one or two. :) But I also think that a quote or two from an upstanding kid's father is an entirely different story than some complimentary things being said by the kid following a visit ("I give it a 10!"). The content of the comments from his father also strike me as particularly interesting in favor of AU.

DallasFlier 02-17-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12265)
I only said we'd pull commits from most of that list. I still left some wiggle room to lose one or two. :) But I also think that a quote or two from an upstanding kid's father is an entirely different story than some complimentary things being said by the kid following a visit ("I give it a 10!"). The content of the comments from his father also strike me as particularly interesting in favor of AU.

Hmm, ok, whatever. I still say that you're counting your chickens not only before the eggs hatch, but before the eggs have even been laid, since the kid has SIXTEEN colleges listed with EQUAL preference. Let me know when he moves Auburn above the pack of the other 15 on his preference list. ;)

I won't try to claim that we've got kids like that "almost committed" or anything of the like - way too early. I will say though, that Nebraska is on 15 of the 150 kids lists, vs. 8 who have Auburn on their lists. ;) Oh, and of those 15 - 2 actually HAVE already committed to the Huskers. :)

Otto 02-20-2010 11:36 PM

Auburn edged out favorite Florida for the Tigers' 14th straight Men's Swimming & Diving SEC championship. This also marks a new record streak in the conference, breaking Florida's 42 year old record. And yes, I know I've been ragged on before for posting about our Swimming & Diving teams, but this was likely the one and only chance for Auburn's streak to end and we pulled out one squeaker of an upset. Our recruiting (yes, there's recruiting in the olympic sports) has set us up for a DEEP future, so we'll likely extend this another 3-4 years minimum. That's pure domination!

I don't believe we'll stand a chance at the NCAA championships (who knows though), but we have won 6 of the last 7 titles at the national level and we will likely start competing for it again next season (I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled another 3-4 year streak at nationals).

WAR EAGLE!

bigolsparky 02-24-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12307)
Auburn edged out favorite Florida for the Tigers' 14th straight Men's Swimming & Diving SEC championship. This also marks a new record streak in the conference, breaking Florida's 42 year old record. And yes, I know I've been ragged on before for posting about our Swimming & Diving teams, but this was likely the one and only chance for Auburn's streak to end and we pulled out one squeaker of an upset. Our recruiting (yes, there's recruiting in the olympic sports) has set us up for a DEEP future, so we'll likely extend this another 3-4 years minimum. That's pure domination!

I don't believe we'll stand a chance at the NCAA championships (who knows though), but we have won 6 of the last 7 titles at the national level and we will likely start competing for it again next season (I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled another 3-4 year streak at nationals).

WAR EAGLE!

I know this is your site Otto, but I get really confused when we discuss swimming and diving on a college football thread. It just doesn't seem right. It would compare to DF discussing Nebraska's competitive corn growing in this thread, while however interesting it may be, it just isn't on topic.

Roll Tide!!!

mriff 02-24-2010 02:20 PM

Especially since it was UF's ass that AU kicked. :o

Otto 02-25-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigolsparky (Post 12352)
I know this is your site Otto, but I get really confused when we discuss swimming and diving on a college football thread. It just doesn't seem right. It would compare to DF discussing Nebraska's competitive corn growing in this thread, while however interesting it may be, it just isn't on topic.

Roll Tide!!!

C'mon Sparky, we don't get on to you when you talk about Bama's domination on the Mud-Boggin' circuit. But in all seriousness, I'm a fan of Auburn as a whole not just about football. Feel free to talk about Alabama's female gymnastics team if you want. :)

DallasFlier 02-25-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigolsparky (Post 12352)
I know this is your site Otto, but I get really confused when we discuss swimming and diving on a college football thread. It just doesn't seem right. It would compare to DF discussing Nebraska's competitive corn growing in this thread, while however interesting it may be, it just isn't on topic.

Roll Tide!!!

LOL Sparky! No competitive corn growing discussions from me here, promise! (And I'm sure you could find them out there in the farm belt too!) :lol:

mriff 02-25-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigolsparky (Post 12352)
I know this is your site Otto, but I get really confused when we discuss swimming and diving on a college football thread. It just doesn't seem right. It would compare to DF discussing Nebraska's competitive corn growing in this thread, while however interesting it may be, it just isn't on topic.

Roll Tide!!!

They grow some seriously tall corn on the irrigated peanut land in southeast Alabama. Way over your head. (y)

bigolsparky 02-26-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12371)
C'mon Sparky, we don't get on to you when you talk about Bama's domination on the Mud-Boggin' circuit. But in all seriousness, I'm a fan of Auburn as a whole not just about football. Feel free to talk about Alabama's female gymnastics team if you want. :)

I don't recall discussing Bama's dominance in mud boggin' or Auburn's dominance in girl's tobacky spittin'. In all seriousness, I am a football fan, and not much more. I could care less about any other sport.

Otto 02-27-2010 12:33 PM

I once dated a girl who dipped. That lasted all of one date. She was cute, but...

DallasFlier 03-09-2010 09:36 PM

Bleacher Report - Top 10 Most Cowardly Programs in College Football
 
Interesting article from Bleacher Report - which I'm SURE should draw some responses here!

Top 10 Most Cowardly Programs in College Football

Coming in at #1 - THE Most Cowardly Program in College Football...

Florida Gators! :o

Quote:

I don’t know whether there is a joint effort between head coach Urban Meyer and athletic director Jeremy Foley to keep worthy opponents from entering Gainesville, but at least one of them has to rise up and grow a set, because the Gators’ current nonconference scheduling practices are downright appalling and, quite frankly, a little embarrassing.

Dating back to when the NCAA expanded the regular season schedule to 12 games prior to 2006, other than its yearly bout with Florida State, Florida has played just one non-SEC game against an opponent residing from a BCS conference (Miami in ’08).

During last season alone, Florida played Troy, Florida International, and Charleston Southern, which arrived at The Swamp as a 62-point underdog. The Gators outscored the three 180-12. What good does that do? What is gained by running up 70 points on the Citadel?
The Top 10 Most Cowardly Programs In College Football

mriff 03-11-2010 07:37 PM

I agree that they need a better, more difficult non-conference schedule. We used to play Miami and FSU year in and year out. We still play FSU but they have obviously been down the last few years.

Otto 03-19-2010 06:23 PM

I still think there's an argument to be made regarding the conference schedule within SEC football being tougher than any other conference around. Of course, the Big 12's top teams have expanded beyond 2-3 teams over the last couple years and is on the rise in this category, but I still think they're a distant second place (if even second top to bottom).

According to Sagarin's ratings, the SEC, once again, ranked atop the conference strength list. According to his ratings, Mississippi State was 1st and Alabama was 2nd on strength of schedule. South Carolina was 4th. LSU was 5th. Georgia was 7th. Arkansas was 12th. Florida was 15th. Auburn was 17th. Vanderbilt was 20th. Tennessee was 21st. Kentucky was 35th. Ole Miss was 46th.

The Big 12's highest ranking? Oklahoma came in at 22nd. Nebraska? They ranked 52nd, lower than all SEC schools. Interestingly enough, the only non-SEC school in the Top 5 was Florida State. I really do not understand the argument about non-conference strength of schedule. In all honesty, who cares?

If a team's overall strength of schedule is higher than another team from another conference due to two-thirds of my schedule being against outlandishly tough opponents within my conference, why does a defensive argument even have to be made? Aside from providing obvious money-making opportunities, these out of conference games can make a huge statement in strength of schedule, if that strength lacks in conference play. If anything, Texas versus Ohio State during the regular season says more about the conference strength of the Big 12 and Big Ten than it does about having balls.

DallasFlier 03-20-2010 02:32 PM

And like clockwork, there it comes, the totally predictable, if tired and worn out argument. "We're the SEC, we play each other, we don't need to play anyone else!" :rolleyes:

Tell me, if all of you SEC demi-gods only play each other - and the dregs of the country in OOC games, how do you KNOW you're collectively better than everyone else? ;)

DallasFlier 03-20-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12256)
The "only 5-star" listing is because Rivals has not done any star-ratings at this point and Scout's are only a preliminary early watch list, basically (for example, Jeff Driskel is still listed as a 3-star).

Regarding Westerman:


So no, definitely not kool-aid. If anything, I'd imagine we're atop Westerman and his family's list.

Hey jibi, I know according to you Westerman's essentially signed with Auburn already :rolleyes: but he's one of many top-100 recruits slated to attend the Nebraska spring game. Guess he just wanted to take an extra trip to scout out the Huskers as an Auburn guy, huh? ;)

mriff 03-21-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasFlier (Post 12555)
Tell me, if all of you SEC demi-gods only play each other - and the dregs of the country in OOC games, how do you KNOW you're collectively better than everyone else? ;)

Um, because we enjoy high rankings and win the National Championship every year? :lol:

DallasFlier 03-21-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriff (Post 12562)
Um, because we enjoy high rankings and win the National Championship every year? :lol:

Every year? Hmm, not so quick there, bucky! :p

mriff 03-25-2010 12:50 PM

Interesting.

Tim Tebow more accurate in college than Peyton or Eli Manning - Kerry J. Byrne - SI.com

Otto 03-29-2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasFlier (Post 12564)
Every year? Hmm, not so quick there, bucky! :p

To be fair, it does seem like it is "every year," no? We have won the last 4 championships and 8 total since the formation of the BCS. The Big 12 has five total (thanks to Nebraska's mid-90's domination). Between the two conferences, the SEC has an 8-2 records in 10 appearances. The Big 12 has a 5-6 record in 11 appearances. The SEC also has a 3-2 head-to-head lead over the Big 12 in the BCS championship game.

Especially in the later years, there is a reason why the fans of the SEC make the claims about the out of conference games (and with few exceptions, the SEC schools back these claims up with their schedules). Looking back at the post-Big 12 Cornhuskers during the '97 season, you battled through a "tough" conference and played OOC opponents such as 7-4 Washington, 5-6 Central Florida (AU beat them worse than NU did that year), and 2-9 Akron. In that year, the toughest competition was Kansas State and Texas A&M (Oklahoma and Texas finished with a combined 8-15 record and obviously had not hired Bob Stoops and Mack Brown yet).

Honestly, the day someone can give a GOOD argument about the IN-CONFERENCE competition of the reigning best conference in college football, then I'll listen to the argument about OOC opponents. I have yet to hear a good argument, though... and this dates back to the same argument being made to keep Auburn OUT of the national championship game in '04 (when we played Citadel and proceeded to see a Big 12 school get absolutely pummeled by a Pac-10 school).

Otto 03-29-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 12600)

Is it? To be fair, neither of the Mannings were threats to run the ball. Playing Tebow is more than spying his movements to cover a receiver, as you also have to worry about him pulling up and running you over. Also, both of the Mannings had decent run support from actual running backs.

bigolsparky 04-01-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12389)
I once dated a girl who dipped. That lasted all of one date. She was cute, but...

Yeah, me too but....

mriff 04-03-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 12621)
Is it? To be fair, neither of the Mannings were threats to run the ball. Playing Tebow is more than spying his movements to cover a receiver, as you also have to worry about him pulling up and running you over. Also, both of the Mannings had decent run support from actual running backs.

Well, yeah, I thought it was. And we've had some 'actual running backs' for the last few years, but if your QB can pull up and get 5 or 10, and even plow over a few defenders, then the coach would be crazy not to utilize such talent. It worked pretty well the last four years. Conversely, it will be interesting to see if any of the current running backs have a break out year. I think Demps could be that player. We'll see.

mriff 04-04-2010 06:43 PM

This kid has some real talent. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he is the starter.

Cameron Newton put forth a strong showing in Auburn's recent scrimmage

Otto 04-11-2010 12:21 AM

Cam is running first team offense with Fannin in the backfield. Trotter is keeping up with him with second team, but with Cam's size and innate abilities, I believe he could start anywhere in the SEC this season.

We're losing a big one with Shon Coleman, one of our prized signees in February. He was diagnosed with leukemia and is currently undergoing chemo. :(

P.S. - To DF, Westerman signed with the Longhorns. Oh well.

Otto 04-11-2010 01:09 PM

Shon's mother posted on the ITAT forum yesterday that Shon is cancer free! "Shon had a bone marrow aspiration today and 0% cancer cells were detected in his marrow. When he entered the hospital 15 days ago he was at 60%. Blood is clear and marrow is clear. We're in remission on Day 15. Excellent news. God is so GOOD!!!!"

As for his playing career, this would likely be a red shirt season for him, for obvious reasons, but he should be enrolling at Auburn in the fall. We're short one returning starter on the O-line at RT, which is a position he was projected at stepping in as a potential first-year starter. We had a great O-line class, though, so we'll see. Our O-line has four returning seniors. That can never be a good thing for opposing defenses.

Otto 04-23-2010 01:28 AM

Florida got a great QB in Driskel. Auburn picked up Reese Dismukes at center over Alabama. This is the second top-tier OL that was previously a Tide lock that has converted to AU. In this class, we've now received commits from three OL in Dismukes (6'3 285), Thomas O'Reilly (6'4 313), and Spencer Region (6'6 338), which should make Coach Grimes quite happy (especially with this year's class). OL was considered a vital gap in depth and now we're going to be stacked for the next couple years.

Otto 04-23-2010 01:43 PM

Here are the estimated attendances from the five Big East spring games this weekend:

UConn: 2,500
Louisville: 5,600
Pitt: 6,500
USF: 6,350
Syracuse: 4,750

And now here are some attendance figures from other BCS teams' spring games this year:

Miami: 10,000
Oklahoma: 16,481
South Carolina: 22,000
LSU: 22,710
N.C. State 25,370
Clemson: 27,000
North Carolina: 29,000
Michigan: 35,000
Tennessee: 35,800
Georgia: 38,742
Texas: 44,250
Florida State: 50,000
Florida: 51,500
Auburn: 63,217
Nebraska: 77,670
Alabama: 91,300

Astonishing.

Otto 05-28-2010 03:31 AM

Florida wins SEC All-Sports trophy ... again - SEC Blog - ESPN

mriff 05-29-2010 01:06 PM

Otto, this kid is gonna do some good things. He's certainly talented enough. Give him an O line and look out.

Auburn Tigers QB Cameron Newton ready to seize second SEC chance - Andy Staples - SI.com

mriff 05-29-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13033)

Go Gators!

Otto 06-01-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 13041)
Otto, this kid is gonna do some good things. He's certainly talented enough. Give him an O line and look out.

Auburn Tigers QB Cameron Newton ready to seize second SEC chance - Andy Staples - SI.com

I agree completely. He will be a game-changer for us... and he has an OL that returns 4 experienced starters (we have to replace the RT position). The OL is currently Ziemba at LT (6'8 308), Berry at LG (6'3 313), Pugh at C (6'4 289) and Isom at RG (6'3 291), with Gayden (6'7 310) or Mack (6'4 315) coming in at RT (Gayden is a 4-star JUCO transfer and Mack is a 4-star true frosh).

In looking at the future, Kiehl Frazier, a 4-star QB (#4 overall) committed to AU on Saturday. :-)

Otto 06-01-2010 01:14 AM

...and it looks like we'll be getting the #12 CB, Jonathan Rose, at some point soon, as well (his father played for AU, so that doesn't hurt).

Otto 06-02-2010 01:47 AM

An interesting video that shows world-class triathlete, Macca, working out and running in Auburn (part of an Under Armour thing).

Training Day: Chris McCormack|CompetitorTV

mriff 06-02-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13048)
I agree completely. He will be a game-changer for us... and he has an OL that returns 4 experienced starters (we have to replace the RT position). The OL is currently Ziemba at LT (6'8 308), Berry at LG (6'3 313), Pugh at C (6'4 289) and Isom at RG (6'3 291), with Gayden (6'7 310) or Mack (6'4 315) coming in at RT (Gayden is a 4-star JUCO transfer and Mack is a 4-star true frosh).

In looking at the future, Kiehl Frazier, a 4-star QB (#4 overall) committed to AU on Saturday. :-)

I'm glad we don't face him until the Championship Game. :D

Otto 06-11-2010 12:07 AM

USC punished with two-year football postseason ban - ESPN Los Angeles

Such a beautiful thing to come of that. That's one of the toughest penalties to date (even moreso than Alabama's program-impacting sanctions years back). Now that USC is no longer the national champion from 2004, think that AU will make a push to claim the title for that year? I'm not sure many people would disagree with the assessment that AU was one of the two best teams that season (if not the best team, to be honest).

Needless to say, I'm quite happy. I feel sorry for the recruits that USC signed a few months ago, but they knew what might have happened (although I'm not sure many expected it to be this bad). A lot of them cited the desire to win a national championship as their reason for signing with USC ... it doesn't look like that will happen. With a two-year bowl ban and a loss of 30 scholarships, the only saving grace would be the weak Pac-10 conference. However, with the rumors of them adopting a number of the Big 12 schools, the Trojan dynasty may very well be at a permanent end.

DallasFlier 06-11-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13116)
USC punished with two-year football postseason ban - ESPN Los Angeles

Such a beautiful thing to come of that. That's one of the toughest penalties to date (even moreso than Alabama's program-impacting sanctions years back). Now that USC is no longer the national champion from 2004, think that AU will make a push to claim the title for that year? I'm not sure many people would disagree with the assessment that AU was one of the two best teams that season (if not the best team, to be honest).

Needless to say, I'm quite happy. I feel sorry for the recruits that USC signed a few months ago, but they knew what might have happened (although I'm not sure many expected it to be this bad). A lot of them cited the desire to win a national championship as their reason for signing with USC ... it doesn't look like that will happen. With a two-year bowl ban and a loss of 30 scholarships, the only saving grace would be the weak Pac-10 conference. However, with the rumors of them adopting a number of the Big 12 schools, the Trojan dynasty may very well be at a permanent end.

I'm quite happy too, this was LONG overdue! As for the recruits, don't feel sorry for them, it appears they get to rewind and make their decision again - AND, so can the current Jr's and Sr's! :omg: Open season on USC players and recruits, this could quickly get interesting-ugly!
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[USC] has been slapped with sanctions that will force the university to vacate its Orange Bowl national championship win and 2005 season, give up 30 scholarships, and miss out on the postseason for the next two years (pending appeal).

But that's not all facing the 2000's most successful program.

A stipulation in the NCAA's ruling allows juniors and seniors to transfer away from the program to a D-1 school without needing to sit out a year. NCAA bylaws also allow new recruits who haven't enrolled to be released from their letter of intent.
Seantrel Henderson and Nine Other USC Recruits Who Could Transfer | Bleacher Report

mriff 06-12-2010 08:11 PM

Henderson had UF as a strong number 2. It would be very nice to grab him from DH Kiffin.

mriff 06-12-2010 08:13 PM

Guys, it's very strange watching the dissolution of the Big 12. I would have never predicted this. So Nebraska to the Big 10. And the two TX and two OK schools to the Pac 10?! Wow. The Pac 10 will finally have some football schools!

mriff 06-12-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13116)
USC punished with two-year football postseason ban - ESPN Los Angeles

Such a beautiful thing to come of that. That's one of the toughest penalties to date (even moreso than Alabama's program-impacting sanctions years back). Now that USC is no longer the national champion from 2004, think that AU will make a push to claim the title for that year? I'm not sure many people would disagree with the assessment that AU was one of the two best teams that season (if not the best team, to be honest).

At least his wife is still hot...

http://gamecockarazzi.com/wp-content...009/09/LK3.jpg

Otto 06-13-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 13123)
Guys, it's very strange watching the dissolution of the Big 12. I would have never predicted this. So Nebraska to the Big 10. And the two TX and two OK schools to the Pac 10?! Wow. The Pac 10 will finally have some football schools!

It seems like there's still a play for Oklahoma to the SEC, although I don't see that happening. I'm going to be curious what the new SEC looks like, though. Rumors abound that we're attempting to pick up VT, UNC, and Duke from the ACC. That would ultimately spell the end of that conference, as well. But I think a more realistic approach would involve WVU in the mix somewhere. Obviously A&M is a top target from Texas. I think the Pac-10 is obviously the biggest winner at this point and perhaps won't be considered a creampuff conference anymore :) ...but don't expect anyone to skate by anymore and far gone are those out of conference schedules they boast about.

I'm here writing this post and can't take my eye off Mrs. Kiffin's nip, so please excuse me for any misspellings... Sigh. :)

Otto 06-13-2010 12:05 PM

My post just got me thinking... does the new SEC and Big 16 conferences stop playing non-conference games? That will be an interesting turn of events.

mriff 06-13-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13126)
It seems like there's still a play for Oklahoma to the SEC, although I don't see that happening. I'm going to be curious what the new SEC looks like, though. Rumors abound that we're attempting to pick up VT, UNC, and Duke from the ACC. That would ultimately spell the end of that conference, as well. But I think a more realistic approach would involve WVU in the mix somewhere. Obviously A&M is a top target from Texas. I think the Pac-10 is obviously the biggest winner at this point and perhaps won't be considered a creampuff conference anymore :) ...but don't expect anyone to skate by anymore and far gone are those out of conference schedules they boast about.

I'm here writing this post and can't take my eye off Mrs. Kiffin's nip, so please excuse me for any misspellings... Sigh. :)

A few comments come to mind:

1. It is a nice nip.
2. Rumors are also kicking around about Miami, FSU, GT and Clemson for the SEC. Now that would be interesting.
3. Just saw/heard about the rumors about Texas and the SEC yesterday.
4. The SEC isn't going to just sit around and do nothing. We will end up with a Super Conference as well.
5. Still can't get my head around Nebraska being in the Big 10.
6. Still can't get my head around the Big 12 just going Poof.

Otto 06-14-2010 12:14 AM

Rumors posted on the AU forum from someone in College Station is that Pac-10 officials were at A&M for less than 2 hours and their offer was rejected. It is expected that A&M will accept the SEC offer tomorrow or Tuesday.

I think Nebraska had a classic case of a knee-jerk reaction. Sure, Iowa is nearby, so perhaps it's not all that big of a stretch. I don't believe that I'll hear any Cornhusker fans happy about departing to the conference, but I am looking forward to seeing how they match up year in and year out with Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan. It's nice of the Big 10 to add another powerhouse/powername to the fold.

DF, what are your thoughts? I know you came on here to post a response about it, but instead all you saw was USC... :)

djm 06-14-2010 09:49 AM

I came on to post and all I saw was a nipple! More interesting as well. Thanks mriff.

DallasFlier 06-14-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 13128)
A few comments come to mind:5. Still can't get my head around Nebraska being in the Big 10.
6. Still can't get my head around the Big 12 just going Poof.

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13130)
DF, what are your thoughts? I know you came on here to post a response about it, but instead all you saw was USC... :)

Months ago when the rumors started surfacing, I was opposed, but the longer things went on and the more info that came out, the more convinced I became that Nebraska absolutely did the right thing. I lament the demise of annual games with many of the Big 12 members with whom we've had series going back as long as 100+ years. But I'm also really fed up with what might as well be called the "Texas and their minions" conference.

Here's a good final straw: During the Nebraska Regents meeting on Friday, Chancellor Perlman said that when Big 12 Commissioner Beebe delivered the ultimatum for a "pledge of loyalty" to the Big 12, he asked Beebe, "So, does committing to the Big 12 mean that the conference owns Nebraska media rights in their entirety?" Beebe's answer: "Yes." Perlman's followup question: "And does the Big 12 own Texas' media rights?" Beebe's answer: "No." Perlman, Osborne and other Nebraska decision-makers are understandably tired of Texas essentially "owning" the conference and being favored such as the above shows.

Having said that, I'd still not be in favor of jumping if it was just to spite Texas, or because we're mad at them. But I'm convinced that the Big 10 is a good fit - geographically, culturally and academically - and will actually be a good thing for Nebraska academically in addition to athletically. We'll miss a lot of the old Big 12 rivalries, but then the Big 12 had already destroyed the most important one - with Oklahoma - another Texas-led decision.

djm 06-14-2010 11:12 PM

Well Dallas, you'll always have the Gophers to whip around a bit -- although I must admit that I was stunned to read that the total series dating back to the early 1900s as the Gophers up slightly over the Cornhuskers.

Otto 06-15-2010 12:26 AM

It is very interesting to see the Big 12 become the Big 10 and the Big 10 become the Big 12 (for now). The more I've thought about it, I do like some of the natural matchups the Cornhuskers would have with the Big 10 teams. The Big 10 has certainly added some depth to a decent roster of teams (even if recent history is defined with Ohio State's BCS failures).

Today's pledges of allegiance back to the Big 12 (or the Big 10, whatever they decide to call it now) was certainly a rather disappointing cap to what could have been the most memorable off-season in college football history (or recent history, at the very least).

DallasFlier 06-15-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13136)
It is very interesting to see the Big 12 become the Big 10 and the Big 10 become the Big 12 (for now). The more I've thought about it, I do like some of the natural matchups the Cornhuskers would have with the Big 10 teams. The Big 10 has certainly added some depth to a decent roster of teams (even if recent history is defined with Ohio State's BCS failures).

Yes, I've already heard rumors that three teams may vie for the "end of season" Thanksgiving weekend slot with Nebraska - Wisconsin (AD Barry Alvarez played at Nebraska, which has led to playing them a fair bit over the last decade or more), Iowa, being a natural "border war" rivalry, and Penn State, where there is also "history" between the two teams. By the way, with PSU's Beaver Stadium being the largest in college football, their highest-ever attendance was the last time Nebraska came to town - in 2002.)
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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13136)
Today's pledges of allegiance back to the Big 12 (or the Big 10, whatever they decide to call it now) was certainly a rather disappointing cap to what could have been the most memorable off-season in college football history (or recent history, at the very least).

Yep, the survival of the Big 12 comes down to two basic things, which the Longhorns weren't going to get going anywhere else:
  • The exclusive ability to have their own single-team sports network while forcing all other members to forfeit all media rights to the conference and split the revenue
  • A long term lock on an uneven revenue split between the conference teams, benefiting Texas the most and widening their revenue gap from the rest of the league

DallasFlier 06-15-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djm (Post 13135)
Well Dallas, you'll always have the Gophers to whip around a bit -- although I must admit that I was stunned to read that the total series dating back to the early 1900s as the Gophers up slightly over the Cornhuskers.

Hiya djm - playing the Gophers regularly will hopefully become one of the new "traditions" that we establish - maybe replacing our long-term domination of teams like Kansas and Kansas State. :p And you're right - if you take the series over the last 50 years, Nebraska dominates - as they do with the whole of the Big 10. But prior to that, Nebraska had a number of decades in the early part of the past century where they frankly weren't very good.

DallasFlier 06-15-2010 01:47 PM

More on Texas and their negotiations with the PAC-10, and why they went the route of salvaging the Big 12 instead:
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A source close to the Pac-10's expansion negotiations told The Denver Post that Texas insisted on better revenue sharing and its own network, which essentially killed the deal.

"In the 11th hour, after months of telling us they understand the TV rights, they're trying to pull a fast one on the verge of sealing the deal in the regents meeting," the source said. "They want a better revenue sharing deal and their own network. Those were points of principle. (The Pac-10) wants to treat everyone fairly. It's been that way for months of discussions."
So while Commissioner Beebe, essentially acting as a Texas mouthpiece, is giving ultimatums to other teams about deadlines to pledge their unwavering loyalty "or else", Texas (who was not ever asked to pledge its loyalty to the Big 12) has been negotiating for months with the PAC-10 behind the scenes. And what killed the deal was the PAC-10's refusal to give them "special terms" instead of treating them equally - as every other conference does, except the "Texas & minions" conference. Had the PAC-10 rolled over and accepted those terms to get their 16 team super-conference, Nebraska and the rest are left holding the bag when Texas jumps and takes their underlings along.

DallasFlier 06-16-2010 10:01 AM

New logo for the Big 12-2
 

mriff 07-03-2010 02:32 PM

UF number 2 in the Directors Cup this year. Highest ranking ever. Stanford number 1 again. The Gators did it with 21 sports while Stanford has 36 sports to qualify.

Otto 07-11-2010 03:33 AM

Definitely a high note for Florida sports. We finished 26th overall. Sigh.

You about ready for football? I really hate this time of the year. Slow time for practice reports, slow time for recruiting, and the impending wait for the season to start. UGH!

Otto 07-11-2010 03:33 AM

Worst headline ever?

Tired Gay succumbs to Dix in 200 meters | Reuters

*shakes head*

mriff 07-12-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13350)
Worst headline ever?

Tired Gay succumbs to Dix in 200 meters | Reuters

*shakes head*

:lol:

mriff 07-12-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13349)
Definitely a high note for Florida sports. We finished 26th overall. Sigh.

You about ready for football? I really hate this time of the year. Slow time for practice reports, slow time for recruiting, and the impending wait for the season to start. UGH!

Yes, I'm ready. Although a little apprehensive about how the season will go. But bring it on.

mriff 07-12-2010 05:04 PM

By the way Otto, did you see that the Gators won the NC in women's swimming? Wrested that title from AU. Finally.

Otto 07-15-2010 11:36 PM

Yeah, we had a "rebuilding" year ... didn't finish all that bad (top 6 or something). We just had something like six new 4-star and above swimmers (and one 6-star or something like that) recruited. I think Florida's class looked about the same, as did Georgia. I would call the "dawging" of Georgia's women's team the real upset, though... they looked unbeatable at the conference championship.

Otto 07-20-2010 02:24 AM

Phil Steele has Nebraska winning the Big 12. That would be a great send-off...

2010 Updated Bowl Projections

Otto 07-20-2010 11:47 PM

WOOT!

Auburn's Zac Etheridge says he's been cleared to play again following last season's injury | al.com

HUGE for us ... I'm not sure on Zac's impact to the team, but having someone come back from such a serious neck injury... he still has a long way to go and I doubt he'll be a starter from day one, but he is very talented and definitely an asset to the team. I see this being very motivational!

Otto 07-20-2010 11:51 PM

Not sure if you guys have been keeping up with the NCAA probe going on about the party in Miami, but it seems to be far reaching, now hitting Alabama's Marcel Dareus.

Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com

It is rumored that either one or both of Julio Jones and Mark Ingram were present as well.

Also, not that it likely matters, but the Pouncey kid from UF is also under investigation for taking $100K from an agent following the Gators' loss in the SECCG.

DallasFlier 07-21-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13406)
Phil Steele has Nebraska winning the Big 12. That would be a great send-off...

2010 Updated Bowl Projections

Actually, he has us winning the Big 12 North, but losing to Oklahoma in the CCG. Note that he has Oklahoma in the BCS title game against Ohio State. Now if we could truly beat Oklahoma and win the Big 12 - well, at least one projection I've seen has us in the title game - but personally I consider that a long shot. Sure nice to have my Huskers back in the title hunt again though.

Otto 07-21-2010 11:03 PM

Didn't notice that. Is OU really expected to be undefeated this year? I don't see that happening. I dunno. I like NU's chances. I'm beginning to think that we all may have good reasons to drink our respective Kool-Aid this season. :)

mriff 07-24-2010 08:01 AM

Drink away you guys. New coaching and new hot prospects will have NU and AU back in it this year. NU's defense could be outstanding this year. And I don't look for OU to be all that great. And AU has Cam Newton. If he gets on a streak and gets some confidence, his physical abilities could really show through.

At the SEC media days, the consensus is Alabama playing UF for the championship. Not sure if that will happen this year with a lot of new faces at UF, but should be interesting.

Otto 07-24-2010 08:46 AM

I'm not sure if it is UF having the new faces or the fact that UGA and UT are going to be down this year. If Spurrier doesn't do something this year in a very weak SEC East Division, I think they need to start looking elsewhere. With Alabama and LSU on the schedule, the Gators may very well open the door to Atlanta for someone else.

Otto 07-24-2010 08:47 AM

By the way, did you see the Elite Camp results? Jeff Driskel, UF QB commit, took top honors (camp MVP) and Kiehl Frazier, AU QB commit, had a strong runner-up performance. That should be a good QB rivalry for years to come.

mriff 07-24-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13427)
I'm not sure if it is UF having the new faces or the fact that UGA and UT are going to be down this year. If Spurrier doesn't do something this year in a very weak SEC East Division, I think they need to start looking elsewhere. With Alabama and LSU on the schedule, the Gators may very well open the door to Atlanta for someone else.

I think the East will be a toss up this year with UF having the edge. Even with no Tebow and half the defense, we still have top five classes (with a number one class thrown in) in the last three years of recruiting. There is talent waiting in the wings. Little worried about USC, but not that much. Alabama will be a great game. I think we'll beat LSU. Should be a great year of football. The first in a long time without a kid named Tebow in the backfield. Come on Brantley!

mriff 07-24-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto (Post 13428)
By the way, did you see the Elite Camp results? Jeff Driskel, UF QB commit, took top honors (camp MVP) and Kiehl Frazier, AU QB commit, had a strong runner-up performance. That should be a good QB rivalry for years to come.

Didn't see that. Very good timing, bringing in a top recruit with Brantley having two years behind center. That will give him time to get some reps in. Maybe even redshirt him this year.

Cam is coming in as a Junior?

Otto 07-25-2010 11:06 AM

Yep. He has two years to play two, although there are some murmurs that he may be gone after one. We'll see what happens. I think he has a monster year in our offense. I just hope Malzahn decides to stay after this season (as do I hope for all the coaches ... we have a really special group of coaches in Auburn).

DallasFlier 07-25-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mriff (Post 13426)
Drink away you guys. New coaching and new hot prospects will have NU and AU back in it this year. NU's defense could be outstanding this year. And I don't look for OU to be all that great. And AU has Cam Newton. If he gets on a streak and gets some confidence, his physical abilities could really show through.

At the SEC media days, the consensus is Alabama playing UF for the championship. Not sure if that will happen this year with a lot of new faces at UF, but should be interesting.

Yeah, I think the Pelini brothers will have an outstanding defense, that seems to be their trademark. And on offense we return 10 of 11 starters, which after last year is debatable whether that's good news or bad news. QB is still our biggest question mark. If one of the 3-4 potential starters steps up, takes control and has a good season, then we could be really good.

Otto 07-26-2010 01:05 AM

By the way, not sure if you guys remember or if I even shared, but I started back to school last semester. At 30 years old, well into my career and quite successful, it is tough to find motivation to go back and nearly start completely over (I dropped out of Auburn as a freshman and took an IT internship). I took 5 classes last semester and 2 classes over the summer mini-mester and I have had an A in all 7 classes... I even made the Dean's List last semester (although I did not have enough hours to qualify for it this semester). Since the Fall is going to be rather busy for me, I'm only taking 2 classes once again (but I'll qualify for Georgia's HOPE scholarship, so I won't have to pay for school anymore). WOOT! :)

mriff 07-26-2010 08:34 AM

Nice Otto. Really. It takes a lot of motivation to go back to school after working. And you're married as well. Leaving the house to go to class after working all day is tough. I never did it. I was in college for 11 years straight, then got a job. Also sounds like you are a damn good student. What college and degree program?

Otto 07-27-2010 01:04 AM

For now, the University of West Georgia. The degree will be MIS and I plan to move on to the MBA program somewhere. I may decide to transfer to Georgia State University depending on the availability of my major courses once I head on into that level.

P.S. - Still not married. We'll be engaged for a while before we have enough saved up for the wedding .. perhaps May 2012 or November/December 2012, depending on where she wants to go for our honeymoon (the latest is Australia, hence the winter wedding). We're celebrating our 3 year anniversary in September, though. :)

DallasFlier 07-27-2010 10:29 AM

Congrats on the very successful return to school. mriff is right, that takes not only lots of smarts and ability, but huge motivation amongst full-time work and home/family life. That's great that you made the decision to return AND are doing so well at it.

Otto 07-29-2010 12:25 AM

Just found out today I had the highest grades in both of my summer classes... 98.8 in Introduction to Psychology and a 96.25 in U.S. History I... :-D

mriff 07-29-2010 12:34 PM

Sorry about that. I thought you were married. Maybe it's better stated 'practically married'. :)

Congrats on your grades. I think going back to college with a little maturity gives you an edge over the 18 year old kids. You're there because you want to be. Get after it. There's a lot to be said for the piece of paper at the other end of a degree. Like it or not, it can have direct and no so direct impacts on employment, salary, promotion, etc.

Otto 07-31-2010 09:32 AM

I agree completely. Thanks :)

By the way, it looks like we'll be receiving commitments from C.J. Uzomah and Jonathan Rose by the end of the weekend. Uzomah was previously the #9 QB in the nation, but he has since been moved to a TE prospect and is #10 overall at that position. Rose is currently listed by Rivals as the #3 CB in the nation and is an Auburn legacy (his father played for AU 'back in the day').

Otto 08-07-2010 03:29 AM

USA Today Coaches' Preseason Poll
1 Alabama (55)
2 Ohio State (4)
3 Florida
4 Texas
5 Boise State
6 Virginia Tech
7 TCU
8 Oklahoma
9 Nebraska
10 Iowa
11 Oregon
12 Wisconsin
13 Miami (FL)
14 Penn State
15 Pittsburgh
16 LSU
17 Georgia Tech
18 North Carolina
19 Arkansas
20 Florida State
21 Georgia
22 Oregon State
23 Auburn
24 Utah
24 West Virginia

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 135, Houston 76, Brigham Young 66, Arizona 65, Mississippi 48, Clemson 44, Stanford 41, Connecticut 40, Notre Dame 38, South Carolina 38, Washington 26, Missouri 23, Navy 12, Oklahoma State 11, Boston College 10, Michigan State 10, Arizona State 6, California 6, Texas Tech 5, South Florida 4, Texas A&M 3, Temple 2, Northwestern 2, Mississippi State 1, Nevada 1, Northern Illinois 1, Central Michigan 1, Southern Methodist 1


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