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Honestly, give me a list of 10 running backs from the history of ANY other school that would rival that of Auburn.
Bo Jackson
Carnell Williams
Brent Fullwood
James Brooks
Stephen Davis
Joe Cribbs
James Bostic
Rudi Johnson
Ronnie Brown
Lionel James
Then throw in other backs like Kenny Irons, Brandon Jacobs, Fred Beasley, Tucker Fredrickson, Tommy Agee, James Joseph, Heath Evans, etc.
I know Nebraska, Michigan, Miami, Florida State, Georgia and others have been mentioned in the discussion, but it's been a long time since any teams other than Auburn and USC have been mentioned in the college RBU argument (the other list you mentioned took into account what happened after they left our beloved level of this sport).
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Honestly, give me a list of 10 running backs from the history of ANY other school that would rival that of Auburn.
Bo Jackson
Carnell Williams
Brent Fullwood
James Brooks
Stephen Davis
Joe Cribbs
James Bostic
Rudi Johnson
Ronnie Brown
Lionel James
Then throw in other backs like Kenny Irons, Brandon Jacobs, Fred Beasley, Tucker Fredrickson, Tommy Agee, James Joseph, Heath Evans, etc.
I know Nebraska, Michigan, Miami, Florida State, Georgia and others have been mentioned in the discussion, but it's been a long time since any teams other than Auburn and USC have been mentioned in the college RBU argument (the other list you mentioned took into account what happened after they left our beloved level of this sport).
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Sigh. Do some research and you'll likely recognize a number of them. Some of those in the list are some of highly recongizable names if you've ever actually kept up with the NFL (which I don't believe you did).
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Sigh. Do some research and you'll likely recognize a number of them. Some of those in the list are some of highly recongizable names if you've ever actually kept up with the NFL (which I don't believe you did).
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Thats kinda my point if they were such big names I would have heard of them. I dont follow the NFL but i do know who the big time players are.
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Hmm. Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone who kept up with SEC and NFL football would not know the names of James Brooks, Brent Fullwood, Stephen Davis, Rudi Johnson, and Brandon Jacobs.
Stephen Davis was the preseason favorite for the Heisman in 1995 and went on to have a fairly decent NFL career with the Panthers (retired last year). Rudi Johnson was a one-man wrecking crew that led the SEC in rushing in 2000 and was named SEC player of the year. He was the starting RB for the Bengals for many years (traded to the Lions this past year). James Brooks was in the Top 25 in all-time rushing in the NFL as of a few years ago. Brent Fullwood was a starter and pro-bowl selection for the Packers in the late 80's. Brandon Jacobs is the current starting RB for the NY Giants and was 3rd and 11th in rushing in the NFL over the last two years. Even people that don't keep up with SEC football know these backs.
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I know Nebraska, Michigan, Miami, Florida State, Georgia and others have been mentioned in the discussion, but it's been a long time since any teams other than Auburn and USC have been mentioned in the college RBU argument (the other list you mentioned took into account what happened after they left our beloved level of this sport).
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Sigh. Do some research and you'll likely recognize a number of them. Some of those in the list are some of highly recongizable names if you've ever actually kept up with the NFL (which I don't believe you did).
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Hmm. Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone who kept up with SEC and NFL football would not know the names of James Brooks, Brent Fullwood, Stephen Davis, Rudi Johnson, and Brandon Jacobs.
Stephen Davis was the preseason favorite for the Heisman in 1995 and went on to have a fairly decent NFL career with the Panthers (retired last year). Rudi Johnson was a one-man wrecking crew that led the SEC in rushing in 2000 and was named SEC player of the year. He was the starting RB for the Bengals for many years (traded to the Lions this past year). James Brooks was in the Top 25 in all-time rushing in the NFL as of a few years ago. Brent Fullwood was a starter and pro-bowl selection for the Packers in the late 80's. Brandon Jacobs is the current starting RB for the NY Giants and was 3rd and 11th in rushing in the NFL over the last two years. Even people that don't keep up with SEC football know these backs.
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Boy, for a guy who whined that the list that Auburn didn't come out on top of was because it included the NFL achievements, you sure changed your story and tried to tout NFL statistics, vs. primarily college level. C'mon, which way do you want it - college achievements only, or NFL, in which case that OTHER article that didn't rate you in the top 4, let alone the top 2 - comes into play. 
As for lists, I'd stack - Mike Rozier
- Ahman Green
- Johnny Rodgers
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- Roger Craig
- Jeff Kinney
- Tom Rathman
- Calvin Jones
- Lawrence Phillips
- Joel Mackovicka
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- Correll Buckhalter
and a few others against your list anytime! In fact, I'd wager a bet that a few of our top quarterbacks had better rushing stats in college than some of the RB's on your list too.
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Hmm. Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone who kept up with SEC and NFL football would not know the names of James Brooks, Brent Fullwood, Stephen Davis, Rudi Johnson, and Brandon Jacobs.
Stephen Davis was the preseason favorite for the Heisman in 1995 and went on to have a fairly decent NFL career with the Panthers (retired last year). Rudi Johnson was a one-man wrecking crew that led the SEC in rushing in 2000 and was named SEC player of the year. He was the starting RB for the Bengals for many years (traded to the Lions this past year). James Brooks was in the Top 25 in all-time rushing in the NFL as of a few years ago. Brent Fullwood was a starter and pro-bowl selection for the Packers in the late 80's. Brandon Jacobs is the current starting RB for the NY Giants and was 3rd and 11th in rushing in the NFL over the last two years. Even people that don't keep up with SEC football know these backs.
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I said I dont follow the nfl but you cant not know who the players are. My point is this if they are so great i shouldnt have to look them up. I dont have to look up Reggie Bush, Brett farve or The Mannings. I know who they are because they are great. Same with Bo Jackson an Caddilac Williams. I never followed and of these people but you know their names because they are every where.
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even though i hate them I would have to put up USC in the list of best RB schools.
OJ Simpson
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Reggie Bush
Anthony Davis
LenDale White
Charles White
Ricky Bell
there are more but those are the cream of the crop. AU I think has a strong class too. I know all of the AU backs except Fullwood & Fredrickson. And there are some that were good but not great, they would be equivalent to the USC guys I did not list. At least in my opinion. But I think you could argue USC, AU, Ohio State, Nebraska could have the top lists. Dawgs could be up there too with Moreno.
If you were to limit it to one or two best RBs in college I think you have to look at OSU with Barry Sanders & Thurman Thomas. Best duo ever in my opinion.
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even though i hate them I would have to put up USC in the list of best RB schools.
OJ Simpson
Charles White
Marcus Allen
Reggie Bush
Anthony Davis
LenDale White
Charles White
Ricky Bell
there are more but those are the cream of the crop. AU I think has a strong class too. I know all of the AU backs except Fullwood & Fredrickson. And there are some that were good but not great, they would be equivalent to the USC guys I did not list. At least in my opinion. But I think you could argue USC, AU, Ohio State, Nebraska could have the top lists. Dawgs could be up there too with Moreno.
If you were to limit it to one or two best RBs in college I think you have to look at OSU with Barry Sanders & Thurman Thomas. Best duo ever in my opinion.
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Can't disagree with any of that - USC and Auburn both have had outstanding lists of RB's through the years. As long as otto doesn't try to claim that those are the only two schools in any "RB U" debate, I agree Auburn is in the top few. 
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Maybe this will help everyone with the RB debate. I'm a Buckeyes fan, but I'm not sure they would be #1 in my book, though the point of consistency with the program and the talent is valid. Until last year, they were one of the few holdouts sticking with a power running Offense. USC certainly has the star power, but looking back through the years, there was a major drought of talent and consistency at USC.
Running Back U. - Top All-Around RB Schools
OSU's list doesn't even include a few old timers from the 40's/50's who were Heisman Trophy Winners: Howard "Hopalong" Cassady, Vic Janowicz and Les Horvath. Probably not what traditional RB's these days are considered, but still RB's in their day.
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If you were to limit it to one or two best RBs in college I think you have to look at OSU with Barry Sanders & Thurman Thomas. Best duo ever in my opinion.
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I got to watch both of those guys run while at Oklahoma State in the mid to late 80's. I would agree that they were very good and should be on any list of great college running backs.
I would also put Hershal Walker way up there. Top 5 all time.
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I really am beginning to dislike rain. We've had rain EVERY weekend for the last few weeks, it seems. I need to cut the lawn, but there's a huge rainstorm coming in less than 20 minutes. UGH!
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I'll take the rain over the alternative. I hate watering my grass. We're having a very nice rain right now on this great Sunday afternoon. And my son mowed our grass yesterday. You need to get you one of those otto. Raise him and nurture him to ge a grass cutting machine!
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Buzz up! INDIANAPOLIS (AP)—Having put up with hecklers at Notre Dame, President Barack Obama got in a shot of his own at the school whose renowned football team has gone its longest stretch without a national championship.
After giving the commencement speech at Notre Dame, Obama spoke at an Indianapolis fundraiser Sunday night for the Democratic National Committee. He began his remarks by joking that he told The Rev. John Jenkins, the university president, that the controversy surrounding his campus appearance “paled in comparison to what to do about the football team.”
The Fighting Irish had records of 3-9 and 7-6 the past two seasons—the most losses at the school in a two-year period—and haven’t won a national championship since 1988.
“That’s an issue we may not resolve within my four years,” Obama said.
“Eight,” shouted someone from the audience.
“All right, well, maybe in eight we might get it done,” Obama said.
Obama’s appearance at Notre Dame capped weeks of protests by some Roman Catholics upset that he was invited to speak at commencement despite his support of abortion rights and embryonic stem-cell research.
The remarks were first reported Tuesday by The Journal Gazette of Fort Wayne.
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Alabama should be hearing about the textbook scandal at some point shortly, as well. And then there are the potential major recruiting violations that are rumored. Should be fun times if both come back, as these would be repeat offender status violations (they happened while UA was still on probation).
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Tennessee Volunteers reviewing another potential NCAA violation - NCAA Football - SI.com
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ESPN's "Outside the Lines" segment, which recapped Kiffin's first six months as coach of the Volunteers, also included a statement made by Kiffin's former team, the Oakland Raiders.
Kiffin was fired in September for cause after what owner Al Davis described as acts of insubordination and lying. Kiffin filed a grievance and is seeking two months pay for the time he was unemployed before being hired at Tennessee.
"Lane Kiffin is a flat-out liar. He lied to the team, he lied to the fans, and he lied to the media," the Raiders' statement said. "He will try to destroy that university like he tried to destroy the Raiders, and will eventually clash with (women's basketball coach Pat) Summitt and (men's basketball coach Bruce) Pearl."
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Coach Quick died Wednesday, six months after being diagnosed with an inoperable malignant brain tumor.
While he lost a valiant battle against a cruel disease, Coach Quick was an inspiration to countless people who were touched by his steadfast faith and amazing courage in the face of tremendous adversity.
Coach Quick will be remembered as one of the greatest coaches in the history of swimming. He will be remembered for winning a record 13 National Championships and for being a six-time U.S. Olympics coach.
More importantly, though, he will be remembered as a devoted servant, loving husband, caring father and doting grandfather. He will be remembered as a great coach but even greater man by the countless athletes he coached and inspired throughout his career.
What I will remember most about Richard Quick is how in facing death, he taught us how to live. He fought the good fight, finished the race and kept the faith. I have never known a finer man.
I know you join me in praying for the Quick family - his wife, June; children, Michael, Kathy, Tiffany and Benjamin; grandchildren, Blake and Emily; as well as our swimming and diving team and coaching staff.
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University of Alabama is placed on three years probation for textbook violations in 16 sports - The Bama Beat - al.com
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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- The NCAA Committee on Infractions placed the University of Alabama on 3 years' probation today for "major violations" uncovered in the school's 2007 textbook investigation.
UA will be forced to vacate football victories from the 2005, 2006 and 2007 seasons and individual records in men's and women's track and men's tennis. There were no scholarship losses for any Alabama sports program.
The NCAA said 201 UA athletes in a total of 16 sports programs -- all but rowing -- violated rules regarding the impermissible receipt of textbooks. Only 22 athletes, however, were labeled as "intentional wrongdoers." Of that 22-person total, 14 were from the track programs, seven were from football and one was from the men's tennis team, thus the vacated records in those sports.
Roughly 125 athletes were found to have "unintentionally violated" textbook rules, meaning charges totaled less than $100. Per the NCAA's legislation, the majority of those athletes were not required to be suspended from competition.
The COI cautioned that it considered heavier penalties against Alabama, but commended the school for its handling of the case.
"Because of the institution's status as a repeat violator, the Committee on Infractions considered both a ban on postseason competition and the enhanced penalties for repeat violators," the NCAA report said. "The committee decided against those penalties because the violations were spread across several sports and other penalties, such as vacation of records, were more appropriate."
The NCAA cited "major deficiencies" in the school's textbook distribution process and also "serious deficiencies in the maintenance of these accounts within the athletics department."
"Had the university been carefully monitoring these numbers," the committee said, "it seems likely this increase (in textbook expenditures) would have been investigated."
An investigation that went back to fall of 2005 found that approximately $40,000 worth of material was obtained illegally, though $21,950 of that "obtained by student-athletes who were aware they were receiving impermissible benefits," the NCAA said.
"The value of the impermissible benefit obtained by these intentional wrongdoers ranged from a low of $32.30 by a women's track student-athlete to a high of $3,947.19 by a football student-athlete," the NCAA's report said. "The committee noted that the four highest amounts ($3,947.19, $3,344.10, $3,061.38 and $2,714.62) were obtained by football student-athletes."
UA is expected to appeal portions of the COI's ruling, sources tell the Press-Register. As it stands, the probationary period begins today and lasts through June 10, 2012.
The school will also have to pay a fine of $43,900, which was value of benefits of the "intentional wrongdoers" times two.
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The Florida Gators are going for a third national title in four years, but three is no longer the only number that matters to some Gators fans. The tension has built so thick around the number 24 -- the reported arrests under Urban Meyer since 2005 -- that the Gators are no longer getting a pass off wins. When one arrest happens, fans can ignore it. When arrests pile up, everyone's paying attention.The Sentinel's Andrea Adelson pointed out that Gators arrests are no minor issue.
We're not here to designate blame. We're here to chronicle the 24 legal issues under Meyer so you know how Florida got to this point. Based on court records research and the help of sources, we're able to provide that blueprint.
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--There have not been 24 different players arrested, or even 24 "arrests" where a player was booked into jail. But there have been at least 24 instances where a Gators player faced misdemeanor or felony CHARGES for a crime. Many lawyers and courthouse folks we spoke with expressed this simple fact -- a charge is technically an arrest, as long as the defendant is dished out a mandatory notice to appear in court. Not everyone agrees on that. That's why we're providing the information and you decide.
--Researching arrests isn't an exact science. There's always a player who could have gotten arrested in Virginia or North Carolina or Florida in the last four years.
--We're not counting the arrests of former Gators. Torrey Davis, Jon Demps and Jacques Rickerson were just a handful of players who spent the night in jail shortly after disbanding from the team.
--One legal case might surprise you. Riley Cooper's February misdemeanor charge for resisting an officer and failure comply with a police or fire department fell through the cracks.
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Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest without violence for his role in a May 30, 2009 fight outside a downtown Gainesville night club.
Outcome: The State Attorney’s Office is currently investigating.
Team punishment: To be determined.
MARQUIS HANNAH
Charge: Felony burglary of an occupied dwelling unarmed and misdemeanor battery in late April 2009 for allegedly forcing his way into a Gainesville apartment and punching a man in the face.
Outcome: Case was dismissed due to lack of evidence, according to lawyer Huntley Johnson.
Team punishment: To be determined.
CARL JOHNSON
Charge: Misdemeanor violation of a sexual restraining order in February 2009 after getting on the same campus bus as an ex-girlfriend. The woman previously filed a petition claiming Johnson date-raped her on three occasions.
Outcome: All charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence.
Team punishment: Johnson never missed any time. Coach Urban Meyer said Johnson would remain on the team as long as the investigation checked out.
RILEY COOPER
Charge: Misdemeanor resisting an officer and failure comply with a police or fire department in February 2009. Campus police cited Cooper for not getting out of the way of a moving car upon police’s orders, according to Johnson.
Outcome: The case was dismissed.
Team punishment: Cooper played baseball during the spring, and it’s unknown whether Meyer sought out punishment.
CAM NEWTON
Charge: Felony counts of burglary, larceny and obstruction of justice in November 2009 after allegedly stealing a laptop from a UF student and throwing it out his dormitory window upon police suspicion.
Outcome: Newton received pre-trial deferment – common for a first-time offender – and is serving community service and probation time. The charges will disappear assuming he completes his obligations.
Team punishment: Meyer suspended Newton for the rest of the 2008 season. Newton transferred to Blinn (Texas) Junior College.
JACQUES RICKERSON
Charge #1: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in February 2007.
Outcome: Charges were dropped without legal ramifications.
Charge #2: Felony domestic violence by strangulation and felony obstruction of justice after a November altercation with a girlfriend.
Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanor status, then the Alachua County courts gave him two years probation without proceeding with the charges.
Team punishments: Rickerson was suspended for the 2007 season opener for the marijuana charge, then kicked off the team the morning of the domestic violence incident.
TORREY DAVIS
Charge: Misdemeanor knowingly driving with a suspended license on numerous occasions, including once in July 2008 and another in March 2009 – two weeks after he left the team – that placed him in jail.
Outcome: The July case was closed.
Team punishment: Davis was always in Meyer’s doghouse and hardly allowed to practice or play with the team for various academic and disciplinary reasons, so it’s safe to say Meyer suspended Davis for his crimes.
JAMAR HORNSBY
Charge #1: Cited for misdemeanor property damage and criminal mischief in April 2007 for allegedly throwing a man onto the hood of a car during a fight.
Outcome: Hornsby received deferred prosecution and the charge was later dismissed.
Charge #2: Unauthorized use of a credit card to obtain goods and services, a felony, along with misdemeanor larceny of a credit card for allegedly making more than 70 fradulent charges on the gas credit card of a female UF student who died seven months earlier.
Outcome: Charges were reduced to misdemeanors and Hornsby took a plea deal – probation and community service.
Team punishments: No punishment for first offense, kicked off the team for second offense. Hornsby served a previous five-game suspension, but it wasn’t for the first misdemeanor – it was for selling his complimentary tickets.
JERMAINE CUNNINGHAM
Charge: Misdemeanor battery in December 2007 for an altercation with a clerk at Jimmy John’s Gourmet Sandwich Shop in Gainesville. Cunningham allegedly threw paper cups at the clerk.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: Cunningham played in Florida’s next game, the Capital One Bowl, but Meyer said he imposed physical punishment on Cunningham, who also couldn’t accept bowl-game gifts.
TONY JOINER
Charge: Felony theft in October 2007 for breaking into a car impound and retrieving his girlfriend’s car, which had been towed.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: Joiner never missed game time, but Meyer stripped him of his captaincy.
RONNIE WILSON
Charge #1: Aggravated assault, battery and use of display of a concealed weapon during commission of a felony in April 2007 for shooting a semiautomatic rifle after a dispute with another man.
Outcome: Wilson pleaded no contest to battery and discharging a firearm. The felony charge was reduced to a misdemeanor and later dropped. Wilson was placed on two year’s probation and given 100 hours of community service.
Charge #2: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in January 2008.
Outcome: The charge was dropped despite serving probation for his original arrest.
Charge #3: One count of battery and one count of assault for an altercation at an apartment complex in October.
Outcome: Nothing has been ruled on the case, according to court records.
Team punishments: Wilson was suspended for the entire 2007 season stemming from the gun charge, including a full-year suspension from University of Florida academics. Wilson rejoined the team in 2008 but was suspended and eventually kicked off after the third charge.
DUSTIN DOE
Charge: Misdemeanor affray and resisting arrest for his role in an April 2007 fight.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: No suspension for Doe.
DORIAN MUNROE
Charge: Felony theft in May 2007 when he removed a University Police boot from his car and put it in his trunk.
Outcome: Charges were dropped.
Team punishment: No suspension for Munroe.
JOHN CURTIS
Charge: Misdemeanor violation of probation in May 2007 after failing to serve five hours of community service stemming from an alcohol citation.
Outcome: Curtis complied with the violation, served probation and the case was dismissed.
Team punishment: Curtis was in Meyer’s doghouse, but he was also injured, so it was difficult to tell why he was out.
BRANDON JAMES
Charge: Purchasing marijuana -- a felony -- along with misdemeanor possession of marijuana in June 2007.
Outcome: The felony charge was dropped due to a minuscule amount (8 grams); James served probation and community service stemming from the misdemeanor charge.
Team punishment: Suspended for one game, the 2007 opener against Western Kentucky.
AVERY ATKINS
Charge: Misdemeanor domestic battery in July 2006 after an altercation in Daytona Beach with the mother of his child. The initial investigation took place in June 2006 with Atkins facing accusations of felony false imprisonment along with the battery charge.
Outcome: Atkins received pre-trial intervention and both cases were eventually dropped.
Team punishment: Meyer immediately suspended Atkins, who then transferred to Bethune-Cookman, found legal trouble there and died in July 2007 from a drug overdose.
LOUIS MURPHY
Charge: Misdemeanor possession of marijuana in May 2006.
Outcome: Charges were dropped, and Murphy had to perform 12.5 hours of community service.
Team punishment: Murphy was suspended for three games during the 2006 season.
JON DEMPS
Charge: Misdemeanor driving with a suspended license in September 2006.
Outcome: Charges were dropped and Demps received six months probation.
Team punishment: Meyer kicked Demps off the team after the 2006 season reportedly for a marijuana-related incident. Demps worked out with the Gators later that summer but never played for UF again.
DAWAYNE GRACE
Charge #1: Misdemeanor charges of battery and theft in July 2005 stemming from a sworn complaint.
Outcome: Charges were dropped because victim did not wish to prosecute.
Charge #2: Misdemeanor violation of a city ordinance and disorderly conduct in October 2005 for his involvement in a fight. Eyewitnesses told police that Grace threw a punch.
Outcome: Grace completed a deferred prosecution program including 7.5 hours of community service.
Team punishment: Meyer suspended Grace indefinitely after the October arrest. Grace later transferred to Georgia Southern.
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Also, on a bit more interesting note, it now appears that after both Alabama and Florida State had to vacate games in overlapping years, their matchup in the 2007 season will end up being the first college football game in history where neither team had an actual shot at victory (the Seminoles won it on the field).
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06-12-2009, 08:16 PM
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looks like OTTO took care of it for me.
While Georgia beats them out with 30 arrest they are not quite in the same leage as the Gators. Most of Georgias are under aged drinking or possesion charges
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Wow. Pretty impressive list. I'm surprised. Some of those guys should be summarily dismissed. No questions asked.
I suspect that there are lists like this for most SEC schools though.
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I agree with Dawg in that while Georgia beats Florida in the total number of arrests, the severity of the arrests are not even comparable.
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CARL JOHNSON
Charge: Misdemeanor violation of a sexual restraining order in February 2009 after getting on the same campus bus as an ex-girlfriend. The woman previously filed a petition claiming Johnson date-raped her on three occasions.
Outcome: All charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence.
Team punishment: Johnson never missed any time. Coach Urban Meyer said Johnson would remain on the team as long as the investigation checked out.
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